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Found this at: http://wybbs.wynalda.com/~croberts/index.html
Go to "Political Journal" and then to "Mena Timeline".
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Timeline of events, characters, involved in the Clinton's history including:
Mena airstrip and cocaine trafficking
Clinton's governorship and girlfriend scandals
Arkansas Development and Finance Authority (ADFA) scandal
Whitewater land development scandal
Rostenkowski (Chicago) and Citibank and Florida bank money laundering
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Timeline
People
Places
Sources
None of this information is claimed to be factual. It is taken from various news articles.
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Timeline
1985
Welch poisoned by anthrax.
1988
ADFA Marketing Director position created for Nichols by then Gov. Clinton.
1993
April 19. Webster Hubbel was highest ranking official during the Branch Davidian standoff today at Waco, TX.
Jul 20. Vince Foster found dead in Ft. Marcy Park, Wash DC. Many inconsistencies are found at the 'suicide' site. FBI prevents normal investigation procedures. Suspicious characters seen at the scene shortly before estimated time of death.
1995
August. Hubbel sent to jail for Whitewater crimes.
Fall. Clinton claims he will be bankrupt because of the Paula Jones lawsuit and asks supporters for donations to his legal expenses fund. Then later he collects all money needed from an insurance policy.
1996
Clinton collects $900,000 in 'bimbo eruption' insurance to cover the lawsuit of Paula Jones.
April. Ron Brown killed in a plane crash over Bosnia. Dan Rostenkowski, Democratic congressman, sentenced to 17 months of jail time and $100,000 fine on 17 indictments. Charges include using public money for personal gifts and travel, cashing in stamps used for official business in exchange for cash.
People
Brown, Ron. Commerce Secretary.
Clinton, Hillary: First Lady of the US.
Sued for improper futures trading in the cattle market.
(Turned $1k into $100k in about a week.)Gary Lane finds damning documents pertaining to ADFA. The next day, Fiske subpoenas the documents and seals them.
One day, Chicago Board of Trade finds all of Hillary's trades, and the next day they're sealed by Fiske.
Davis, LJ. Reporter doing a story on Whitewater. After an doing an interview about it, upon returning to his hotel, he was knocked unconscious from behind and critical pages of his notebook were taken.
Espey, Mike. Sec's of Agriculture accused of taking trips and perks (plane trips, basketball tickets) inappropriately, especially from Tyson Foods.
Fiske, Robert. Member of Congress leading the investigation of Whitewater. Appointed by Jane Reno.
Flowers, Gennifer. One of Clinton's girlfriends.
Foley. Congressman from Washington, receives a lot of campaign money from Tyson Foods. Asked federal court to make taxpayers to repay his legal fees for his fighting term limits.
Foster, Vince. Supposedly Hillary's boyfriend. Killed in July 20, 1993; part of Clinton's cabinet.
Hubbel, Webster. Created ADFA.
Jones, Paula. Filed suit vs Clinton about sexual harassment which occurred in the early 90's.
Knepp, Lou, President of ADFA.
Lasater, Dan. Clinton's best friend, did bond underwriting for ADFA. Went to jail with Roger Clinton for GIVING away large amounts of cocaine. Owned a bonding house.
Lane, Gary. From Pat Robertson's CBN, he was investigating Mena, received death threats, then he had to leave town.
Nichols, Larry. Former marketing director of ADFA.
Packwood, Bob. (R-OR) Member of Congress accused of fraud for ???. Accused of touched the behind of a waitress. Forced to resign his Senate seat.
Parks, Jerry. Was a Clinton political foe, but then hired as security directory for the Clinton-Gore campaign. He had a file about bad stuff pertaining to Clinton, but was assassinated before he could hand the file to anyone.
Reno, Janet. Clinton appointed cabinet member, head of Dept of Justice.
Rostenkowski, Dan. Owns part of Guarenty Bank, Chicago. US Congress. Involved in the House bank scandal.
Seal, Barry. Hauled arms to the Contras in the early 80's to/from Mena.
Stephens, Jackson. Brought BCCI to America. Owned investment firm. Underwriter of some bonds for ADFA.
Stevens, Jay. Prosecutor ends up investigating Stephens. This former US attorney investigates Rostenkowski.
Tyson, Don. Recipient of loans from ADFA.
Ward, Seth. Father in law of Webster Hubbel. Received first loan from ADFA for $2.85 million and there are no records of him paying it back.
Welch, investigator of Mena airstrip scandal. Poisoned and killed by anthrax, a military biological agent.
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Places, organizations
BCCI banks. Allegedly Lasater was running drug money through 2 banks in this network of banks.
Guarenty bank, Chicago. Partially owned by Dan Rostenkowski, US Congress.
Int'l Paper. Recipient of loans from ADFA.
Madison Guarenty. The failed S&L which the RTC started investigating. Made loans to Clintons to buy land in Whitewater development area.
Resolution Trust Co. Oversees failed Savings and Loans to liquidate them. Officially closed Jan, 1996.
Rose Law Firm. Where Hillary worked as a lawyer.
Stephen's investment firm. Owned by Jackson Stephens.
Tyson Industries. Owned by Don Tyson. This corporation also recipient of loans from ADFA.
Whitewater Development Corp.
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CAST OF CHARACTERS
Hillary Rodham Clinton — wife of Bill Clinton, her office at the Rose Law Firm is right next to "WEBB" HUBBELL's office.
Roger Clinton — brother of Bill Clinton. Roger works for DAN LASATER.
Webster ("Webb") Hubbell — a close friend of then-Governor Bill Clinton. "Webb" Hubbell works at the Rose Law Firm.
Dan Lasater — Arkansas "Bond Daddy" and close friend of Bill Clinton. His firm, Lasater & Co., was handling more than $300 million per year in preferred state bond activity.
Barry Seal — a skilled pilot, from his plane he drops duffel bags filled with cash onto the Triple S Ranch near Hot Springs, Arkansas.
Finis Shellnut — son-in-law of SETH WARD. Finis lives at the Triple S Ranch and is the go-for who retrieves the bundles of cash being dropped by BARRY SEAL. Finis works for DAN LASATER as a "bondsman".
Seth Ward — owner of the Triple S Ranch. His daughter, Suzy, is married to WEBSTER ("WEBB") HUBBELL.
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John Cummings is a former prize-winning investigative reporter at New York Newsday. He has co-authored the Heist (1987), Goombata: The Improbable Rise of John Gotti and His Gang (1990) and Death Do Us Part (1993). His latest book, Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA (Clandestine Publishing, ISBN: 1-883955-02-5), co-authored with Terry Reed, has been a bestseller. For over thirty years, since the Bay of Pigs, Cummings has studied the confluence of intelligence gathering, money laundering and drug-trafficking.
I spoke with Mr. Cummings on March 25, 1996.
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CONSPIRACY NATION: I heard you and Terry Reed, I think it was on Radio Free America with Tom Valentine. And as I recall, you were investigating some kind of corruption in Florida that led you to, when you first became aware of Terry Reed and his situation...
JOHN CUMMINGS: It began around the time of the Bay of Pigs. And I came to know a lot of the guys who were involved in that. And it worked out that I began to look into this question of covert operations. And the more I looked into it (prior to that, I'd been working on organized crime), the more I found organized crime and drug trafficking. They always seemed to go hand-in-hand. And that led to my looking, some years later, at Barry Seal. And from Barry Seal, I was led to Arkansas by some friends in the Louisiana State Police who believed that Seal was doing more than what most people *thought* he was really doing. This one particular cop came to believe that Seal had some kind of government protection and that he was probably engaged in some kind of covert activity. And he said that he left Louisiana and he went up to Arkansas. And then I started to look up there. And the more I looked up there, the more suspicious I got, the more it smelled of an intelligence operation. (Which I had seen a lot of in Florida.) And *that* led me, eventually, to Terry Reed.
CONSPIRACY NATION: How did you first get in contact with Reed?
JOHN CUMMINGS: I heard about Terry Reed from a friend who is a private investigator in Washington. (He's a retired CID man. [IRS Criminal Investigation Division]) And he told me about Terry's case. Terry at the time was under indictment for mail fraud. And so I called his lawyer (and in the interim, I'd done a big piece on Barry Seal for Penthouse, and she had read it.) And she sent me some of the pleadings from the case. And here I see Terry was at Mena. So I began to pursue Terry.
CONSPIRACY NATION: What exactly was Mena about?
JOHN CUMMINGS: Terry came in contact with a man who was introduced to him as "John Cathey." And John Cathey was, in reality, Oliver North. And he came into contact as the result of the Toshiba investigation. And you know what that was, right?
CONSPIRACY NATION: That was something with submarines, wasn't it?
JOHN CUMMINGS: The Toshiba Machine Tools was secretly selling propeller technology to the Soviet Union. This equipment would allow the Soviets to make propellers that would elude American detection. There was a *big* scandal about it. At one point, Congress wanted to totally stop trading with Toshiba and not allow them in the country. There was a tremendous tumult about this.
Well North, or "Cathey," asked Terry to make... Terry, at the time, was working for Toshiba. And they wanted him to try to find out what was going through the Toshiba warehouse. Anyway, that's how he came to meet North. (Although he didn't know his name was Oliver North. He only knew that he had been in Vietnam like Terry had been.) And they were very *simpatico*.
So at some point, Terry decides to go into business for himself and he's gonna move to Arkansas. And North tells him, "Well. If you're moving to Arkansas, there's a guy there who's running some stuff for us that you ought to meet." And he says, "You can probably make some money out of this."
So anyway, North gives him the name of Barry Seal and says that Seal will contact him. And Terry moves to Little Rock, and not too long thereafter, Seal comes to see Terry at his place of business. And he has with him, when he comes that day, a guy name of Dan Lasater. And working for Lasater, as a chauffeur, was [Bill] Clinton's brother, Roger.
Well he meets Seal, and they hit it off. And Seal tells him that he needs someone who can train *Contra* pilots to drop supplies into areas of Nicaragua at night; you know, teach them how to do air drops.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And they trained those pilots so that the CIA would have plausible deniability.
JOHN CUMMINGS: Right. The CIA would appear to have no "hands-on" knowledge. This [would appear to be] simply a free-lance operation.
At the same time, Terry (whose background is in machine tooling)... Seal needed help with producing untraceable weapons that they could give the *Contras*.
Anyway, that's how it came about. That's how he met Barry Seal.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And then, what wound up happening was that the guns were being flown down there, but either (I'm not clear on this) it was, say, "individual entrepreneurship" that caused some pilots to decide to fly back with drugs? Or were the drugs...
JOHN CUMMINGS: Well Terry did not know about the drugs. All he would do was go to Mena, teach these guys, in various places, [about flying]. And they were kept at a place out in the woods. This area is very remote. And they built a makeshift base out in the woods near Mena, Arkansas. And all Terry would do was take 'em up and try to teach 'em. And although these guys had had pilot training, they were very rough. They could fly, but barely.
So Terry's job was trying to teach them how to drop this stuff at night, in the jungle, to supply their own troops. Because they didn't want (what later happened), they did not want a plane shot down with an American crew on board. (And of course, that *did* happen.)
And one of the people working with Terry, working with Seal at that time, was William Cooper — who was a pilot of the C-123 that *was* shot down.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And Cooper died in that crash, right?
JOHN CUMMINGS: He died. Only [Eugene] Hasenfus survived.
CONSPIRACY NATION: But in general, these planes were not flying back to the U.S. empty.
JOHN CUMMINGS: Well, separate and apart from this. See, my suspicion was, as they were flying weapons in, since the cargo... You know, the planes were empty. They weren't gonna come back empty. I mean, Seal's (how shall I say?) "cover" was that of a drug trafficker. In other words, he had gotten into that game early. And for all the world, all the time they were chasing Seal around Mena, they were looking for drugs. But what they were *really* doing was running a supply operation.
Now if Seal was running stuff *back*, it was not something Terry was involved in. Terry didn't find out about the drugs until much later, when he was in Mexico.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And that was what caused him to break off from the operation.
JOHN CUMMINGS: Yeah. He broke off from that. And right after he did, he started having legal problems.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So he found out, while he was in Mexico, that drugs were involved. And he didn't want to have anything to do with the drugs.
JOHN CUMMINGS: He was down there supposedly to run a machine tool company. And he had acquired a big warehouse for putting machine tools. He'd been told that what they were gonna do with this proprietary company was run guns from the U.S. to Central America. But when he went to his warehouse one day, he opened one of these big, huge containers, and it was full of cocaine. And at which time he then confronted his then boss, a man named Felix Rodriguez (although *he* was going under a pseudonym too.)
CONSPIRACY NATION: Yeah. "Max Gomez."
JOHN CUMMINGS: Max Gomez. Yeah.
And he [Terry Reed] bargained his way out of there. He thought he was home free. He says, "I just want out. I'm gonna go home. I'm not gonna say anything to anybody. I just want out of this."
And then suddenly, it turns out that a plane that had been stolen from [Reed] years earlier turns up in a hangar he had rented in Little Rock.
CONSPIRACY NATION: Wasn't Buddy Young, then working as Clinton's chief of security, involved?
JOHN CUMMINGS: Buddy Young is one of the people he's suing.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And what happened was, Reed thought everything was okay, and he heads north. And Buddy Young puts out a "profile" on him, through the computers.
JOHN CUMMINGS: He put out a phony profile on him! Saying that he was a known drug trafficker and that he had been dealing in drugs in Central America. He put that into the government computers.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So then, Reed figured they must be out to get him. He figured that they'll probably, since they've got this false profile on him, that he's this "dangerous drug trafficker", he'll be lucky if he gets captured alive.
JOHN CUMMINGS: Yes, well that was the idea. They had listed, on this alert, "Armed and dangerous" — which is a tip-off to every cop: shoot first and ask questions later. But, you see, he had enough knowledge that he could have implicated both Bill Clinton *and* George Bush in this.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So Reed went "underground" for what, 18 months or so?
JOHN CUMMINGS: Well, a little less than a year. He and his wife took off with their children and drove across the country, trying to stay out of sight, figuring that he had been marked for a hit like [Barry] Seal had been! He was convinced they would do the same thing to him that they did to Seal.
CONSPIRACY NATION: Barry Seal had taken that secret videotape of [the Sandinistas] loading that plane with narcotics. And who leaked that tape? Was it Reagan or North?
JOHN CUMMINGS: It was photos, not videotape.
CONSPIRACY NATION: But wasn't it North, or Reagan, that made the photos public?
JOHN CUMMINGS: Reagan put 'em on the air.
CONSPIRACY NATION: Yeah. Because Reagan was under political pressure.
JOHN CUMMINGS: He wanted to get aid to the *Contras* through Congress. And they wanted to show, "Look. These guys [Sandinistas] are all drug dealers." And by doing that, they made it known who was informing on them.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And then Seal was a marked man. And by the government putting him in a position where he was easily found, it was the same as setting him up.
JOHN CUMMINGS: Yeah, that's a well-documented story.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So after about a year underground, Reed decides that he's gonna turn himself in.
JOHN CUMMINGS: No, he learns that he's been indicted. So having been indicted, he decided that he'd better surrender before they tried to come and find him. And he did. He arranged to surrender. And he went with an attorney and surrendered. And his wife was also indicted. And she had done absolutely nothing.
CONSPIRACY NATION: Yeah. She says in the video ["The Mena Connection"] that the judge at one point said, "Mrs. Reed, I don't even understand why you're here in court."
JOHN CUMMINGS: What he said was, "Why is *she* here?" And Terry's attorney said, "I guess because she's married to him." The judge asked, several times, "Why is *she* here?"
CONSPIRACY NATION: So then Reed was exonerated, and found not guilty.
JOHN CUMMINGS: He was acquitted, yeah. He was acquitted by the judge. It was an order of acquittal, from a judge (which you hardly ever see.) There was no jury trial.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So he was so obviously innocent that...
JOHN CUMMINGS: He was acquitted on the law. Not on the facts. Because the jury decides the facts. But the judge said that the government had no case! (This was after two-and-a-half years.) And when I spoke to the judge about it, he told me that he thought the case "had a high odor to it."
CONSPIRACY NATION: And after he was acquitted, he had gone through a lot of hardship because of all this and had to spend a lot of money, I assume, with legal fees and everything.
And at what point did you meet up with him?
JOHN CUMMINGS: I met up with him while he was still under indictment. I met him for the first time, personally, the Summer of 1990. The judge's acquittal came in the following November.
CONSPIRACY NATION: One of the reasons he decided to work with you on a book was because he figured if he got his story out, he and his family would be safer.
JOHN CUMMINGS: *I* told him that. If he got his story out, it wouldn't be a suit of armor, but it would raise more suspicion if something happened to him. Otherwise, if they were to shoot him dead, I mean, who knew about this guy?
CONSPIRACY NATION: So after he was acquitted, he wanted redress of his grievances and he also wanted to get the truth out.
JOHN CUMMINGS: He was very angry because of what they had done to his wife. He was very angry that they had put her through this. And they had three small children. And it's very obvious that she had done absolutely nothing. In fact, I read the grand jury minutes: there was virtually no case going on there at all. But you know, there's a saying: "A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich."
And that's what really pissed him off. So the two of them decided... They were still wary of me, at that point. They decided that they were going to go back into court and seek justice. (Not really realizing that that is a relative term, and seeking justice sometimes can be a very burdensome thing.)
But anyway, they decided to do this. And then I went to visit him in early 1991. And that was the first time, in our conversations, that he brought in Bill Clinton, and ADFA [Arkansas Development Finance Authority], and money-laundering, and all the rest of it.
CONSPIRACY NATION: The book *Compromised* was kind of a landmark book, or a ground-breaking book, in that it outlined what was going on; it provided a road map for what had been going on in Arkansas.
JOHN CUMMINGS: What it was, it was a kind of diary of a foot soldier in that war [i.e. *Contras*]. This is something that he really believed in. He believed in the *Contras* and he felt that they should be helped. (You know, he and I had many arguments about that.) And he said that he, at the time, thought that Oliver North was (although he didn't know, at the time, he was Oliver North), he thought he was a great guy. And he was as pissed off as Terry was about what had happened in Vietnam.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And so Reed brought suit against the government?
JOHN CUMMINGS: No, it wasn't a suit against the government. It was a suit against the two men who testified against him. There was a third man, who was an Arkansas state trooper, who works for the DEA.
CONSPIRACY NATION: He brought suit against these 3 people. Do you know the names of the people?
JOHN CUMMINGS: Buddy Young. Tommy Baker. And Sanders — he's an Arkansas cop who was working with the DEA. Sanders was brought in because of the contacts... I tell you what: to really understand the court case you have to read the chapter, "Department of Injustice." Because these guys lied so many times, in their testimony. They kept getting caught: they would say one thing, and then the facts would show something else.
See, the reason he brought suit against those guys, it was very clear that they were lying in their testimony. And they didn't even really make any attempt to hide the fact they were lying.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And by bringing suit, this allows what they call the discovery process, right? That he (at least theoretically) should have access to documents that aren't normally available?
JOHN CUMMINGS: He got documents from the FBI and from the DEA Intelligence Headquarters in El Paso which showed that Young had planted the profile about him being a drug trafficker, and that they claimed when they found the airplane that they took the VIN number through NCIC [National Crime Information Center] — but not when they said they did!
CONSPIRACY NATION: And so this lawsuit was proceeding well. And in the video, "The Mena Connection," it ends with a request that people try to help with the legal expenses.
JOHN CUMMINGS: If they can. Yes.
CONSPIRACY NATION: Did he get much help with the legal expenses, from people?
JOHN CUMMINGS: Yeah, there was help that came in. Basically, Terry is taking what income, his share of what income there has been from the book, to plough into this case.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So he's in a situation that happens to a lot of people: the government has got unlimited funds, but an individual citizen, if they're gonna pursue something like this, they've got to spend their own money.
JOHN CUMMINGS: That's right. There's no way you can really out-spend the government.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And so, this case was proceeding well, up until recently, right?
JOHN CUMMINGS: There was a motion, from the other side, to limit the amount of evidence that Terry could bring in. And that copy of the court order I sent you [See CN 7.56] just about wipes away any reference to Mena or... In other words, he can try his civil rights case, but you can't go into *why* they would have wanted to frame him.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So the judge is like a gatekeeper, right? He decides what gets allowed in.
JOHN CUMMINGS: The judge is, of course, a product of Arkansas politics.
CONSPIRACY NATION: What's the judge's name?
JOHN CUMMINGS: George Howard.
He's the one that's trying the case now against Jim Guy Tucker.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So that would indicate that the case against Tucker is also likely to be biased.
JOHN CUMMINGS: I'm not familiar with that *case*. There's a lot of people running interference for Bill Clinton.
And I think the thing that you might want to keep in mind: every attempt to pull back the rock on Mena has been thwarted.
CONSPIRACY NATION: I don't know if you know this fellow named Sherman Skolnick, out of Chicago...
JOHN CUMMINGS: I know who he is. I don't know much about him.
CONSPIRACY NATION: Well he's been looking into this whole thing, with Whitewater and Mena, and his end of this is, he represents somebody named Joseph Andreuccetti which, it's a complicated case, but there was supposed to have been a transfer of an RTC [Resolution Trust Corporation] contingency fund — an *illegal* transfer — that this money went down to Arkansas to cover up an embezzlement of a savings and loan down there.
But just generally, I'm familiar that the state just reeks of corruption.
JOHN CUMMINGS: Arkansas? Oh geez. We have a chapter in there which we refer to as "America's Banana Republic." Which is what it is.
CONSPIRACY NATION: So at this point you're being stymied.
JOHN CUMMINGS: Terry has run into a big road-block with this judge. Yeah.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And what's the prognosis at this point?
JOHN CUMMINGS: Well, I think that (I'm giving you my speculation now), if Terry appeals this, if he can't appeal it now, it would keep the case out of court until after the election — which is what I think they're after.
CONSPIRACY NATION: In your book, there's two occasions where Reed actually meets with Clinton...
JOHN CUMMINGS: There were three meetings. Reed only talks about two.
CONSPIRACY NATION: And the third is kept quiet, for now.
I talked with Sarah McClendon, the veteran White House correspondent. And she thinks that Clinton is just, basically, innocent. How involved was Clinton?
JOHN CUMMINGS: Up to his ears. Here was a guy, what he was doing was playing ball with the Administration in Washington, and for a lot of reasons. There was a lot of money flowing into the state. You have to *really* understand the amount of money that was flowing into Arkansas. And the net effect of this was, the money went to finance firms run by Clinton's friends, who could then make very nice campaign contributions to him. I mean, Clinton never got any of that money directly.
CONSPIRACY NATION: When I talked with Sarah McClendon, she said that there were several "Menas", so-called; that this was not an isolated operation.
JOHN CUMMINGS: There was at least one other that I know of, out in Texas. [Barry] Seal was involved.
CONSPIRACY NATION: The Arkansas Development Finance Authority [ADFA], the way that worked: drug money goes into ADFA and then it gets loaned out to people...
JOHN CUMMINGS: [Barry Seal] was dropping $9 million a month into Arkansas. And the money ended up going to Dan Lasater. Where it went from there, who knows? ADFA... Nobody knows where ADFA's money came from. We know that they lent out a lot of money to Bill Clinton's friends — people who didn't need it! ADFA was supposedly set up to help companies that couldn't get regular financing.
CONSPIRACY NATION: You've looked into the drug corruption. What's your opinion on the "War on Drugs"?
JOHN CUMMINGS: The "War on Drugs" is a joke.
CONSPIRACY NATION: Orlin Grabbe, a former finance professor at the Wharton Business College, has theorized that what this "War on Drugs" is about is inflating the cost of these drugs; that the United States sells arms to the Third World and the Third World has no way to pay, except with their drugs. And the way it works is, the "War on Drugs" artificially boosts the cost of these drugs.
JOHN CUMMINGS: I'm somewhat aware of his theory. And I have no serious argument with it, although I have no personal knowledge of that.
I'll put it to you this way: the guy who originally put me on to Barry Seal was a narcotics investigator. And he said to me (referring to Seal), "I thought I was chasing the biggest drug trafficker in the country, only to learn that the biggest drug trafficker in the country *was* the country." (And I think that really tells it all.) He suddenly realized that he'd spent his life on a fool's errand.
The "War on Drugs" is a tremendous farce. But it's easy to sell this country on anything.
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Subject: (Fwd) [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Dornan Fingers Bush for Mena?!
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Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Dornan Fingers Bush for Mena?!
Did Dornan really say this?!
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Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Congressional Record May 29th 1996
Congressional Record May 29th 1996
'The wheels of Justice grind exceedingly slow, but they grind exceedingly fine!'
— author unknown
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The following is taken from the Congressional Record of the 29 of May 1996. The HONORABLE Mr. Dornan of Indiana is the HONORABLE gentleman who has placed them into the Congressional Record for all us.
Perhaps "Judge" Kenneth Starr will now have the testicles to place the mill stone in motion! Personally, I doubt that this will ever occur as Starr was appointed Solicitor General of the United States by the most successful cocaine smuggler in our nation's history, William Jefferson Clinton's partner, George Herbert Bush.
— nemo
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Title: TRUTH IN SPEAKING
(House of Representatives — May 29, 1996)
CR [Page: H5627]
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the gentleman from California Mr. Dornan is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, there are so many subjects racing through my mind right now for a 5-minute special order. I was going to talk about an Army hero who was killed in Bosnia trying to, to use his own words from a few hours before his death, clear these stinking minefields for the children of Bosnia, but the last gentlewoman began her remarks by saying it is time for truth in speaking.
Let me tell the gentlewoman, as somebody who started investigating Little Rock in 1992, before the Clintons were in the White house, I think Little Rock, just Little Rock, in an otherwise great State, and only in the field of politics with some business people, was a stinking hole of corruption; with not this current Governor, but the prior Governor, a stinking hole of corruption. And that like Hamlet's line about murder, though it hath no tongue, will by most miraculous organ out, all of this financial corruption will by most miraculous organ out by, using her very words, truth in speaking.
CR [Page: H5628]
Mr. BURTON of Indiana: Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. DORNAN: I yield to the gentleman from California.
Mr. BURTON of Indiana: Mr. Speaker, what I did in my special order was ask a number of questions that were still unanswered. One of the questions that I think is very, very important is why did the Arkansas Development Financial Authority send $50 million of Arkansas money to the Cayman Islands to deposit in a bank in the Cayman Islands, which is a major drug transit point acknowledged by almost every DEA agent in the world? Why would they send $50 million of Arkansas money down there? That is a question that needs to be answered.
I have the electronic bank transfer statements in my office. I am going to put them in the Congressional Record. There is no doubt the money was wired to the Cayman Islands. The question needs to be asked, why was it wired? Why would the Governor of Arkansas allow that? Why would the Arkansas Development Financial Authority, a State-run agency, send their money out of the country to a drug haven? I hope that the independent counsel will explore that. We are going to ask other questions as well.
Mr. DORNAN: Mr. Speaker, no one other than the gentleman has investigated the Vince Foster thing or analyzed it. And the line of Vince Foster's that comes back to us from the grave about the whole Whitewater mess and the IRS problems was, these are Vince Foster's words, `This is a can of worms we do not want to open.' The can of worms was opened in front of that jury and they got 24 felony convictions.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentlewoman from Texas, the Portia from the other side of the aisle.
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🔥Facinating read!!! The corruption goes so deep! And our govt leaders are totally involved!!😵💫
I agree with Huntis: fascinating! I remember much of this. I hope that Bill and Hillary will face tribunals. It is critical for preventing this from happening again…..and this part of their corruption is nothing compared to their true core evil.
God bless you for this extensive research!!